Immobilizer on ล koda Octavia Tour - a key element of protection against theft, but its ring (antenna) around the ignition switch often fails. Symptoms of the malfunction range from intermittent failures to start the engine to the system completely ignoring the key. In 80% of cases, the problem is solved by replacing or repairing the ring, but many owners encounter difficulties in dismantling it.
This article is not a universal manual, but detailed manual taking into account the specifics Octavia Tour (including restyled versions A5 FL and A7). Here you will find not only step-by-step instructions, but also unique data on the location of the ring fastenings on different bodies, as well as diagnostic methods without a scanner. All actions are confirmed by the experience of service technicians and owners from the forums Skoda-Club.ru and Drive2.
Signs of malfunction of the immobilizer ring
The first sign of a ring problem. flashing (yellow key on the dashboard) when you turn the key in the lock. However, there are less obvious symptoms:
- ๐ The engine starts only with 2-3 attempts, despite the proper battery.
- ๐ The dashboard goes out for 1-2 seconds when turning the key into position
ON. - ๐ง Diagnostic scanner (eg VCDS or OBDeleven) shows errors
01176 โ Keyor01177 โ Engine Start Blocked. - ๐ถ The key is not determined by the system, even if the battery is in good condition (checked by the tester).
On Octavia Tour A5 (2004โ2013) The ring often fails due to oxidation of the contacts, and A7 (2013โ2020) โ due to a break in the printing tracks inside the antenna. In both cases, removal is required for diagnosis or replacement.
โ ๏ธ Attention: If after removing the ring the engine stopped starting at all, check the safety lock. F37 (10A) in the drive unit - it is responsible for powering the immobilizer and can burn out when short circuit.
- The engine does not start the first time.
- The immobilizer indicator is flashing constantly.
- The key is not recognized by the system.
- Other
Tools and preparation for work
To remove the ring of the immobilizer on ล koda Octavia Tour You will need a minimum set of tools, but there are nuances depending on the year of release:
| Tool/material | Purpose | Notes |
|---|---|---|
Socket wrench T20 or T25 |
Untwisting of the steering column casing | On A7 head-mounted screws may be used Torx Plus - Check it out in advance! |
| Plastic paddles or picks | Removal of the clip of the casing without damage | On the restyled versions, the clips are more fragile - work carefully. |
| Multimeter | Checking the integrity of the ring wiring | A "receiver" mode to check the cliff in the antenna. |
| Electrical tape or heat shrink | Contact isolation after repair | When replacing the ring, the original connectors may not match - soldering will be required. |
Before starting work necessarily:
- Turn off the batteryโs negative terminal (wait 10-15 minutes to reset errors in the control unit).
- Install the steering wheel in a straight position - this will simplify access to the casing.
- Prepare the workplace: lighting (better than LED lamps) and a magnet for fastening screws.
If you have Octavia Tour A5 FL (2009โ2013), take a picture of the location of the wires under the casing before turning off โ these models often confuse the connectors when reassembled.
Step-by-step instructions for removing the ring of the immobilizer
The process of dismantling the ring Octavia Tour It takes 30 to 60 minutes depending on the experience. The main difficulty is access to antenna mounts, which are hidden under the casing of the steering column.
โ๏ธ Preparation for ring removal
Step 1: Removal of the steering column housing
On Octavia Tour A5 The casing is mounted on 4 screws (T20) and 3 clips. Nana A7 A fifth screw was added under the steering wheel. Procedure:
- Then, pull two of the sleeves down from the bottom of the shaft.
- Carefully slid the lower part of the casing with a spatula and remove it, overcoming the resistance of the clips.
- Then, remove the stains from the top of the sleeve. A7 One of them is hidden under a decorative cover.
- Remove the top of the casing by disconnecting the connector of the steering switches (if it interferes).
Step 2: Access to the ring of the immobilizer
The ring is located around the ignition lock and is fixed to a metal bracket. Nana Octavia Tour A5 It's fixed with two plastic latches, A7 - with one self-tapping machineT10) and a latch.
Carefully squeeze the latches with a flat screwdriver and remove the ring from the bracket. Don't pull the wires! - it could damage the connector.
Step 3: Unconnect the connector and check
The connector of the ring of the immobilizer on Octavia Tour has 4 contacts:
1- food (+12V)2- mass (GND)3and4- signal wires (antenna).
Before removing the connector, check the voltage on the contacts with a multimeter. 1 and 2 (It should be ~12B when the ignition is switched on). If there is no voltage, the problem is in the wiring or control unit of the immobilizer.
What to do if the ring is attached to the bracket?
If plastic latches do not lend themselves, apply a little silicone lubricant or alcohol to the attachment sites. Donโt use WD-40, it can damage plastics.
Diagnostics of the ring of the immobilizer without a scanner
If you do not have diagnostic equipment, you can check the ring using "grandfather" methods:
- Visual inspection: Check the integrity of the wires and the absence of oxidation on the connector contacts. Nana Octavia Tour A5 Often rubbed isolation at the base of the ring.
- Testing with a multimeter: Set resistance check mode (200 ohms) and connect the probes to the contacts
3and4connector. Resistance to a proper ring.5โ10 ohms. If the device showsOL(cliff), the ring must be replaced. - Test with a knowingly working key: Try to start the engine with the second key. If the problem remains, the ring or block of the immobilizer is to blame.
On Octavia Tour A7 There is an additional test: when the ignition is turned on, bring the key to the ring (without inserting it into the lock). If the indicator of the immobilizer goes out, the antenna works, if not, a replacement is required.
โ ๏ธ Attention: On models with the system Keyless (keyless access) the ring of the immobilizer is integrated into the control unit - it can not be removed separately! In this case, the diagnosis of the entire block is required.
Replacement vs. Ring repair: what to choose?
The cost of a new immobilizer ring for ล koda Octavia Tour It varies from 1,500 to 4,000 rubles depending on the manufacturer. Original spare parts (1Z0 959 754 for A5, 5E0 959 754 For the A7) more expensive, but more reliable. In 60% of cases, the ring can be repaired:
| Fault type | Possibility of repair | Repair cost |
|---|---|---|
| Oxidation of contacts | Yes (brewing + lubrication) | 0โ200 rub. |
| Broken wires | Yeah (sweater + isolation) | 200โ500 rub. |
| Damage to print tracks | No (needs replacement) | โ |
| Mechanical damage to the housing | Partially (glue + epoxy) | 300โ800 rub. |
If you want to repair the ring yourself:
- ๐ง Use a solder with a low melting point (for example, POS-61).
- ๐งด After repair, cover the contacts with varnish UR-231 for protection against oxidation.
- ๐ Check the resistance of the antenna after repair โ it should not differ from the original by more than 20%.
If the engine does not start after the ring is replaced, a diagnostic scanner will be required to "train" the keys (e.g., a diagnostic scanner). VCDS). Without this procedure, the immobilizer will block the launch.
Ring installation and reverse assembly
Installation of a new (or repaired) ring is done in reverse order, but there are critical moments:
- Make sure the ring connector is connected up to sleeve-fixing Octavia Tour A7 Access to it is blocked after installing the upper part of the casing.
- Check the position of the ring relative to the ignition lock: the gap between them should be
1โ2 mm. If the ring is set curve, the key may not be read. - When twisting screws of the casing do not make excessive efforts - plastic clips on the A5 FL break at a pressure of more than 0.5 Nยทm.
After assembly:
- ๐ Insert the key into the lock and turn to position
ON(without starting the engine). The indicator of the immobilizer should go out in 1-2 seconds. - ๐ Try starting the engine. If it doesn't start the first time, turn off the ignition and try again in 10 seconds.
- ๐ Connect the scanner to reset the errors (if they remain). Nana Octavia Tour often "plugged" errors
01176and01179which require manual resetting.
Common mistakes and how to avoid them
Even experienced masters make mistakes when working with an immobilizer ล koda Octavia Tour. Here are the most common:
- ๐ Mixed up connectors: On A7 Under the casing of the steering column are wires of the steering switches and the immobilizer. If after assembly do not work wipers or turn signals - you connected the connector in the wrong place.
- ๐ง Damage to the ignition lock: When removing the ring, it is easy to touch the lock mechanism. If after assembly the key is turned tightly - it is necessary to adjust or replace the lock.
- ๐ถ Ignoring key learning: On Octavia Tour A5 After replacing the ring, the immobilizer settings are sometimes reset. Without a training procedure (through VCDS or ODIS) the engine will not start.
If after all the manipulations the problem remains, check:
- fuse
F37(10A) in the block under the steering wheel. - Integrity of wiring from the ring to the control unit of the immobilizer (located behind the dashboard).
- Immobilizer settings in the block
17 (Instruments)through a diagnostic scanner.
On Octavia Tour A7 After the ring is replaced, it may be necessary to reset the adaptations in the block. 09 (Cent. Elect.). For this purpose in VCDS select Security Access โ 16 (access code: 31347).
FAQ: Answers to frequently asked questions
Can I drive without an immobilizer ring?
Technically yes, but the engine will lock in 2-3 seconds after start-up. The only way to get around this is to software disable the immobilizer through chip tuning (illegally in Russia) or install a bypasser (for example, a computer system). Fortin or Pandora). This is in violation of the Road Safety Act (art. 12.5 CAO).
What scanner is needed to learn keys?
For Octavia Tour will fit:
- VCDS (VAG-COM) Full support for all functions.
- OBDeleven Budgetary option (a pro-version is needed).
- ODIS - official software Skoda, but requires a license.
Training procedure: Block 17 โ Adaptation โ Channel 21 (for A5) or Block 09 โ Coding (for A7).
What if the engine does not start after the ring is replaced?
The reasons may be as follows:
- Incorrect connection of the ring connector (check contacts)
1and2on the voltage. - Reset the immobilizer settings (key training is required).
- Damage to the control unit of the immobilizer (on A7 It's combined with
BCM).
Start by checking for errors with the scanner. If there's a mistake 01179 โ Incorrect Key, perform the training procedure.
Where is the control unit of the immobilizer on the Octavia Tour?
On Octavia Tour A5 immobilizer unit (J393) is located behind the dashboard, next to the block BCM. On A7 The functions of the immobilizer are integrated into BCM (central control unit) which is under the glove compartment.
Can I repair the ring of the immobilizer with my own hands?
Yes, if the problem is:
- Oxidized contacts (cleaning + lubrication) Contact 60).
- Breaking wires (soldling + insulation).
- Cracks in the body (glue) Loctite 406).
If the circuit board inside the ring is damaged, repair is not possible. In this case, buy a new ring with art. 5E0 959 754 (for A7) or 1Z0 959 754 (for A5).