ล KODA Octavia A5 is one of the most popular foreign cars on the Russian market, but even this reliable car has weaknesses. Internal CV joint (constant velocity joint) - a part that wears out after 150โ200 thousand kilometers, and with aggressive driving or bad roads can fail even earlier. If you hear a characteristic crunch when turning or accelerating, and play appears on the drive, itโs time to get ready for replacement.
In this article we will look at how to replace the inner CV joint with Octavia A5 (including restyled versions) with your own hands, without resorting to expensive service. You will learn what tools you will need, how to properly remove the drive, what pitfalls await when disassembling the gearbox (especially on models with DSG or 6-speed manual transmission), and how to avoid mistakes that lead to premature wear of a new part.
Signs of a faulty internal CV joint on an Octavia A5
Inner CV joint on Octavia A5 (unlike the external one) breaks down less often, but its malfunction is more dangerous - it can lead to the wheel locking while driving. The main symptom is crunching or clicking noise when moving in a straight line, especially under load (when accelerating or going uphill). Unlike the external CV joint, which crunches when cornering, the internal one manifests itself even on a flat road.
Other signs:
- ๐ง Vibration at speeds of 60โ90 km/h, which disappears during acceleration or braking. It is often confused with wheel imbalance, but the vibration from the CV joint is more โharshโ and radiates into the body.
- ๐ Jerking when starting off, especially when cold. This indicates play in the hinge or wear on the rollers.
- ๐ Grease leaks on the boot. If the boot is torn, dirt gets inside and the CV joint wears out 3-5 times faster.
- ๐ Pulling the car to the side with uniform movement. May indicate critical play in the drive.
On Octavia A5 with motors 1.6 MPI, 1.8 TSI and 2.0 TDI Inner CV joints have different designs. For example, on diesel versions the hinges are more massive and fail less often, but on 1.8 TSI with DSG-7 replacement is complicated by the need to partially remove the gearbox.
โ ๏ธ Attention: If the crunch is accompanied by a metallic grinding sound, you should not drive such a car! This is a sign that the CV joint has already โcrumbledโ and debris can block the drive.
What tools and spare parts are needed for replacement?
To replace the inner CV joint with Octavia A5 you will need a specialized tool. Without it, it will not be possible to remove the drive or press out the hinge. Here's the full list:
| Tool/spare part | Purpose | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 30mm head (thin-walled) | Unscrewing the hub nut | A regular head will not work - you need one with a slot for fixation |
| CV joint puller (or universal puller) | Removing the joint from the shaft | For Octavia A5 Suitable puller for VAG drives |
| Torque wrench | Tightening the hub nut (torque 200โ220 Nm) | Without it, the nut may be overtightened or undertightened |
| CV joint boot with clamps | Protecting the new hinge | It is better to take it as a set with a CV joint (for example, Febi 15105 or SKF VKJA 6010) |
| Grease for CV joint (200โ250 g) | Refilling the hinge | Suitable LIQUI MOLY LM47 or original VAG G 052 145 A2 |
You will also need standard tools: a jack, supports, wrenches 13, 16, 17, a hammer, a pry bar and WD-40 for unscrewing stuck bolts. If you have Octavia A5 with DSG, you will additionally need a stopper for the flywheel (to unscrew the hub nut).
โ ๏ธ Attention: Don't skimp on anthers! Cheap Chinese analogues break after 10โ20 thousand km, and the CV joint will fail again. The best option is original anthers VAG 1K0 498 299 or analogues from Hutchinson.
- Torque wrench
- CV joint puller
- 30 mm head
- None of the above
Preparing the vehicle: removing the wheel and drive
Before starting work, place the car on a flat surface, tighten the handbrake and place chocks under the rear wheels. If you have Octavia A5 with ABS, disconnect the battery so that the sensors do not trigger falsely when removing the drive.
Step by step instructions:
- Jack up the front of the car and remove the wheel. Use wheel chocks for safety.
- Unscrew the hub nut (tightening torque 200 Nm). If it does not budge, use a wrench extension or heat the nut with a gas torch (be careful not to damage the bearing!).
- Remove the brake caliper (unscrew the two 13mm bolts) and hang it on a wire so as not to damage the hose.
- Disconnect the steering tip from the steering knuckle (16 bolt). A puller may be needed for this.
- Unscrew the two bolts securing the ball joint to the steering knuckle (16mm wrench). After this, the fist can be moved to the side.
- Knock the drive out of the hub with light blows of a hammer through a wooden spacer.
At this stage, many people encounter a problem: the drive โsticksโ to the box. To remove it, you will need a pry bar or a special puller. Do not pull the shaft with your hands โ you can damage the box seal!
โ๏ธ Preparing to remove the drive
Removing and replacing the inner CV joint
Once the drive is removed, you can begin replacing the CV joint. On Octavia A5 The inner joint is secured to the shaft using a retaining ring. To remove it, you will need a puller or a vice.
Algorithm of actions:
- Clamp the drive in a vice (using soft spacers to avoid damaging the shaft).
- Remove the boot clamps and cut off the old boot (if it is torn).
- Mark the shaft and CV joint with a marker so that when reassembling, install the new joint in the same position.
- Using a puller, remove the retaining ring and press the CV joint off the shaft. If there is no puller, you can carefully knock it down with a hammer through a copper drift.
- Clean the shaft of old grease and dirt. Check the splines for wear - if they are worn out, the entire drive will need to be replaced.
- Install a new boot, put a new snap ring on the shaft and press in a new CV joint. It should sit all the way with a characteristic click.
- Fill the hinge with grease (about 100โ150 g) and secure the boot with clamps.
On Octavia A5 with motors 1.8 TSI and 2.0 TDI internal CV joints have an increased service life, but are also more expensive (from 4โ5 thousand rubles for the original). If your budget is limited, you can consider analogues from GKN or SKF - they are 30-40% cheaper, but last almost as long.
Before installing a new CV joint, check the play in the hub bearing. If there is one, replace the bearing along with the CV joint - otherwise vibration will quickly kill the new joint.
Assembly and testing: how to avoid mistakes
After replacing the CV joint, reassemble everything in the reverse order, but there are several critical points:
- ๐ฉ Hub nut must be tightened to a torque 200โ220 Nm. If you overtighten, the bearing will quickly fail; if you donโt tighten it enough, the wheel will โwalkโ.
- ๐ง Boot must be installed without distortion. Before tightening the clamps, release the air from it, otherwise it will tear when moving.
- ๐ ๏ธ Check the oil level in the box (especially on
DSG). When removing the drive, some of the oil may have leaked out. - ๐ After assembly drive 50โ100 meters and check for grease leaks from under the boot.
Mistakes that are often made during the first replacement:
- ๐ซ If they forget to install the retaining ring, the CV joint falls off when driving.
- ๐ซ The shaft splines are not lubricated - the drive โsoursโ in the box after 10โ20 thousand km.
- ๐ซ They tighten the boot clamps - the rubber cracks.
- ๐ซ They do not check the play in the hub bearing - vibration kills the new CV joint.
If a crunching noise remains after replacement, check:
- Is the CV joint installed correctly (the marks must match).
- Is the boot damaged during installation?
- Is there any play in the ball joint or steering end?
If the crunching noise remains after replacing the CV joint, the problem may be in the transmission (differential wear) or in the outer CV joint. Check the car on a lift.
How much does it cost to replace an internal CV joint on an Octavia A5 at a service center?
The cost of replacement service depends on the type of transmission and region. On average prices are as follows:
| Type of work | Cost (RUB) | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Replacing the inner CV joint (mechanical) | 3 500โ5 000 | Excluding spare parts, work for 2โ3 hours |
| Replacing the internal CV joint (DSG/automatic) | 6 000โ9 000 | Requires partial dismantling of the box |
| Replacing the drive assembly | 8 000โ12 000 | Includes removal/installation of gearbox (on DSG) |
| Diagnosis of crunching noise in the drive | 1 000โ1 500 | Determining which CV joint is crunching (internal or external) |
Spare parts will cost:
- ๐ง Original CV joint (VAG 1K0 498 273) โ 5,000โ7,000 rub.
- ๐ง Analogue (GKN or SKF) โ 3,000โ4,500 rub.
- ๐ง Boot with clamps - 500โ1,200 rubles.
- ๐ง Lubricant - 300โ500 rub.
If you decide to change the CV joint yourself, you will save 3โ5 thousand rubles, but be prepared for difficulties: Octavia A5 with DSG Itโs better not to try it without experience - thereโs a high chance of damaging the box.
Why donโt the services provide a guarantee for replacing CV joints?
Many services refuse to provide a guarantee for replacing the CV joint, because its life depends on the condition of the boot, wheel bearing and driving style. If the boot ruptures in a month, and the client does not notice, the new CV joint will fail, and the service will not be to blame. To avoid this, require a clause in the contract to check the boot after 1,000 km.
Frequently asked questions about replacing a CV joint on an Octavia A5
Is it possible to drive with a crisp CV joint?
If the noise is only when turning, it is an outer CV joint and can be replaced within 1-2 weeks. If there is a crunch when driving in a straight line (inner CV joint), driving is dangerous: the joint may lock at speed. The maximum is to get to the service station at a speed no higher than 60 km/h.
Which CV joint is better to install on the Octavia A5: original or analogue?
Original CV joints (VAG) last longer (150โ200 thousand km), but are expensive. Analogues (GKN, SKF, Febi) are 30โ40% cheaper and last for 100โ150 thousand km. If the car is not new, there is no point in overpaying for the original. The main thing is to buy spare parts from trusted suppliers (not Chinese no-name).
Is it necessary to change the oil in the box after replacing the CV joint?
If the gearbox is mechanical, it is not necessary to change the oil. If DSG or automatic - check the oil level, as when removing the drive part may have leaked. On Octavia A5 with DSG-7 after replacing the CV joint, it is recommended to adapt the box (reset errors via VCDS).
Why did vibration remain after replacing the CV joint?
The reasons may be:
- The hub nut is not tightened correctly (you need a torque wrench!).
- Worn wheel bearing (needs to be replaced).
- Wheel imbalance (check balancing).
- The boot was damaged during installation (dirt got into the new CV joint).
If vibration occurs at speeds of 80โ100 km/h, most likely there is a problem with the balancing or bearing.
Is it possible to replace only the boot without touching the CV joint?
If the CV joint is not yet crunchy and has no play, only the boot can be replaced. But to do this you will have to remove the drive, disassemble the CV joint, wash it, replace the lubricant and install a new boot. The work is almost the same as with a complete replacement, so if the CV joint is already worn out, it is better to replace it entirely.